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Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 06.01.2015, 17:30
by WeAreOne
So, here comes my opinion on that problem.

I think, a lot of people used to smurf because of the waiting time for games.
I've done that too, you get like 5 seconds from loggin in, to starting the actuall game.
My main, is around 1450 Skill right now, and sometimes I have to wait like 5-10 mins, even longer to find a actuall game and thats a huge turndown for me.


I see that point of xDxP.
Since ive started to play this game, almost 2 and a half years ..
Ive never seen a tournament, with maybe a price [No need to give out money or free Pro Acc]..

I would suggest .. to fix the lack of "new people" joining this game, and playing it constantly having fun with friend or alone, whatever reason they play it, and make advertisement for this.

There are no kinda event in this game, like making the best 2v2 players each month, with a ladder system maybe? winning loosing in a tournament, just to get some reward for tryharding, investing time in that game?

we could have a day maybe where the community plays vs Admins and Mods in 2v2? Just for FUN?
I dont see mods and admins often in this game, maybe because im mostly in the evening online.

Sure, it is a thing that wont be fixed in one day, in one try.. but thats a thing we have to react together as admins, mods and even the new players, the old onces, who support this game for years by now - respect for them.

If i could, i would help to program such things like a ladder event, where even new players like 900-1000 skill play against eatch others, get better make the game more attractive to stay.

sorry for my bad english

/WeAreOne

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 07.01.2015, 18:15
by savvi
xdXP wrote:More than half the top 100 skill highscore are twinks. Are you going to do something about this?
And pls why do i feel like this game is only for germans. Oh yes all announcements are in german...



I agree the image of top 100 is so fake.Except that they don't understand the fact that speaking their mother language in PUBLIC forum the only thing they do is destroying their own game.

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 07.01.2015, 18:21
by savvi
manuel wrote:He already asked for someone to translate it, because his englishskills are too poor...

PS: This game has been developed in Germany.


Φαντάσου ο καθένας να μιλούσε την μητρική του γλώσσα τι θα γινότανε;

Stellen Sie sich vor allen, die Muttersprache zu sprechen, was passieren würde?

Τώρα το γεγονός οτι ένα παιχνίδι αναπτύχθηκε στην Γερμανία δεν αποτελεί δικαιολογία. Απλά το επιχείρημα σου είναι γελίο...


Nun ist die Tatsache, dass ein Spiel in Deutschland entwickelt ist keine Entschuldigung. Nur Ihr Argument lacht ...

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 07.01.2015, 18:24
by savvi
Darkblades wrote:Twinks have only to say they are twinks to their opponents then it's not forbidden or the opponents already know they are twinks. I've to say krunx shows always the twinks Ingame the forum-thread and says them they shall read it. So maybe more and more twink-player are gone but we don't have this "play with twinks to steal some Pros the Skillpoints"-problem anymore.
And if they don't use the forums then it's not krunx' fault. I mean before you buy play something you have to read the rules. Maybe we should write Ingame a note for the players who don't read the forums then is ignorance no excuse anymore.

And the stuff with the bans...well maybe it's too hard to ban someone at the first time...matter of opinion. :?

Edit: Image
Would be a nice spot for twink-note. You see it immediate when you come on.


nice labeling

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 07.01.2015, 18:36
by savvi
Sunshine33 wrote:This system is horrible.
Caz i think it makes 'community' smaller and smaller.
Frist of all,krunx has to know that there are a lot of players who dont see forums at all.
If they use twinks ,they will be banned without knowing how and why they get banned.
See this guy 'UrbTheGreat' who said something there .viewtopic.php?f=18&t=45&start=520 he actually had no idea what was going on.
Many players have been reported as a twink and banned so far.
Some players did the allegations on the forums and got unbanned but others .. WHERE THE FUCK HAVE THEY GONE ?
Ofc some reasons for using twink can be acceptable. playing in bad net connection,loss of the password,only for 2vs2..
If we dont wanna play twinks,we just can kick them or leave the room.
This smurf twink-prohibition is definitely excessive!


No, i will disagree with you my friend. Community is already small for many reasons so twings is not making community larger i think the opposite. They creating a fake image...The players that they want to play this game they will play game. The others after the first ban they're gonna quit.

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 07.01.2015, 18:43
by savvi
WeAreOne wrote:So, here comes my opinion on that problem.

I think, a lot of people used to smurf because of the waiting time for games.
I've done that too, you get like 5 seconds from loggin in, to starting the actuall game.
My main, is around 1450 Skill right now, and sometimes I have to wait like 5-10 mins, even longer to find a actuall game and thats a huge turndown for me.


I see that point of xDxP.
Since ive started to play this game, almost 2 and a half years ..
Ive never seen a tournament, with maybe a price [No need to give out money or free Pro Acc]..

I would suggest .. to fix the lack of "new people" joining this game, and playing it constantly having fun with friend or alone, whatever reason they play it, and make advertisement for this.

There are no kinda event in this game, like making the best 2v2 players each month, with a ladder system maybe? winning loosing in a tournament, just to get some reward for tryharding, investing time in that game?

we could have a day maybe where the community plays vs Admins and Mods in 2v2? Just for FUN?
I dont see mods and admins often in this game, maybe because im mostly in the evening online.

Sure, it is a thing that wont be fixed in one day, in one try.. but thats a thing we have to react together as admins, mods and even the new players, the old onces, who support this game for years by now - respect for them.

If i could, i would help to program such things like a ladder event, where even new players like 900-1000 skill play against eatch others, get better make the game more attractive to stay.

sorry for my bad english

/WeAreOne


Dont feel sorry for your english.There is no contest about english here....Even my english is bad because when i was younger no teacher noticed my small problem of dyslexia. So dont worry about your english no one is perfect. Gj mate i'm glad reading your opinion.

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 08.01.2015, 00:04
by Sunshine33
savvi wrote:No, i will disagree with you my friend. Community is already small for many reasons so twings is not making community larger i think the opposite.

Yea,'community' is already small but what makes the matter worse is nothing but this prohibition. And Im not saying twinks make 'community' bigger.I just say that active players who have twinks will be forced to quit game caz of this prohibition and consequently 'community' is gonna be smaller.
savvi wrote:The players that they want to play this game they will play game.

How? It seems that krunx doesnt follow the rules he created by himself.Ban for the first time ,that means permanent ban if players dont do the allegations on the forum.I could easily imagine that a player who wants to play have tried to log in ,failed 100 times and finally gone away without any idea.

We should think about how we can prevent players from leaving before how we can gain new players.

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 08.01.2015, 07:09
by manuel
Fünffachpost in weniger, als 30min. Wer kann, der kann.

Nur Ihr Argument lacht ...


Mag ich :)

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 08.01.2015, 13:01
by Darkblades
We just need such an awesome person as Moderator like me. :lol:

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 08.01.2015, 13:42
by krunx
Sunshine33 wrote:This system is horrible.
Caz i think it makes 'community' smaller and smaller.
Frist of all,krunx has to know that there are a lot of players who dont see forums at all.
If they use twinks ,they will be banned without knowing how and why they get banned.
See this guy 'UrbTheGreat' who said something there .viewtopic.php?f=18&t=45&start=520 he actually had no idea what was going on.
Many players have been reported as a twink and banned so far.
Some players did the allegations on the forums and got unbanned but others .. WHERE THE FUCK HAVE THEY GONE ?
Ofc some reasons for using twink can be acceptable. playing in bad net connection,loss of the password,only for 2vs2..
If we dont wanna play twinks,we just can kick them or leave the room.
This smurf twink-prohibition is definitely excessive!


I have to ban Twink-users. There os no other possability them to make sure, that the twink-users read the rules about Twink-usage.

And maybe we lose some players, who do not read the Forum. But these players we will get lost anyway because they are not so much interested in the game as other players.
On the other hand we lose a lot of new players, who are defeated and overruned by Twinks! Let's talk about these players!

Sunshine33 wrote:How? It seems that krunx doesnt follow the rules he created by himself.Ban for the first time ,that means permanent ban if players dont do the allegations on the forum.I could easily imagine that a player who wants to play have tried to log in ,failed 100 times and finally gone away without any idea.


If you can not log in, you post it on the Forum. If s.o. do not want to this, he is not really interested in the game.

savvi wrote:
manuel wrote:He already asked for someone to translate it, because his englishskills are too poor...

PS: This game has been developed in Germany.


Φαντάσου ο καθένας να μιλούσε την μητρική του γλώσσα τι θα γινότανε;

Stellen Sie sich vor allen, die Muttersprache zu sprechen, was passieren würde?

Τώρα το γεγονός οτι ένα παιχνίδι αναπτύχθηκε στην Γερμανία δεν αποτελεί δικαιολογία. Απλά το επιχείρημα σου είναι γελίο...


Nun ist die Tatsache, dass ein Spiel in Deutschland entwickelt ist keine Entschuldigung. Nur Ihr Argument lacht ...


I try to answer English posts in English and German posts in German.
Do not care about manuel and do not feed him. He is known as a troll.

WeAreOne wrote:Since ive started to play this game, almost 2 and a half years ..
Ive never seen a tournament, with maybe a price [No need to give out money or free Pro Acc]..


There is an extra section in the Forum to organize a tournament. You are free to do so.

WeAreOne wrote:we could have a day maybe where the community plays vs Admins and Mods in 2v2? Just for FUN?
I dont see mods and admins often in this game, maybe because im mostly in the evening online.


At the moment there are only 2 Admins: Seraph07 and me...

WeAreOne wrote:If i could, i would help to program such things like a ladder event, where even new players like 900-1000 skill play against eatch others, get better make the game more attractive to stay.


If you are really interested in programming we can talk Ingame, via PN or in another Topic (maybe a extra topic would be the best). Would lead to another discussion. But thanks for your proposal.

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 08.01.2015, 13:46
by krunx
xdXP wrote:More than half the top 100 skill highscore are twinks. Are you going to do something about this?
And pls why do i feel like this game is only for germans. Oh yes all announcements are in german...


viewforum.php?f=8

Where do you read a announcement only in German?
And to be honest: You style of discussion is chaos (for example in the map section) and you do not read my posts attentively. This leads to the thing, that I focus more on other posts.

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 09.01.2015, 02:20
by xdXP
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krunx wrote:
xdXP wrote:More than half the top 100 skill highscore are twinks. Are you going to do something about this?
And pls why do i feel like this game is only for germans. Oh yes all announcements are in german...


viewforum.php?f=8

Where do you read a announcement only in German?
And to be honest: You style of discussion is chaos (for example in the map section) and you do not read my posts attentively. This leads to the thing, that I focus more on other posts.


I posted that months ago and by the time i posted it was only in german.

krunx wrote:I have to ban Twink-users. There os no other possability them to make sure, that the twink-users read the rules about Twink-usage.

And maybe we lose some players, who do not read the Forum. But these players we will get lost anyway because they are not so much interested in the game as other players.
On the other hand we lose a lot of new players, who are defeated and overruned by Twinks! Let's talk about these players!


So the priority here is to protect the skill from the players... But how important is skill in a game with no players? Cs go and league of legends have a sistem against smurfing called " matchmaking " where players of the same skill group or similiar for exemple 1000-1099 skill play against each other. This is would be possible if the game had more players. You we would lose new players cause they would lose. Pls i lost my first 20 games before knowing wtf i was doing if the player wants to play he will no mather if he loses or wins. Instead of making false thoughts you should make the game more accessible world wide i only see now creep td on german sites instead of international ones like miniclip. The game is dying fast actions are needed it´s a matter of time to creep td be close.

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 09.01.2015, 12:00
by krunx
xdXP wrote:
krunx wrote:I have to ban Twink-users. There os no other possability them to make sure, that the twink-users read the rules about Twink-usage.

And maybe we lose some players, who do not read the Forum. But these players we will get lost anyway because they are not so much interested in the game as other players.
On the other hand we lose a lot of new players, who are defeated and overruned by Twinks! Let's talk about these players!


So the priority here is to protect the skill from the players... But how important is skill in a game with no players? Cs go and league of legends have a sistem against smurfing called " matchmaking " where players of the same skill group or similiar for exemple 1000-1099 skill play against each other. This is would be possible if the game had more players. You we would lose new players cause they would lose. Pls i lost my first 20 games before knowing wtf i was doing if the player wants to play he will no mather if he loses or wins. Instead of making false thoughts you should make the game more accessible world wide i only see now creep td on german sites instead of international ones like miniclip. The game is dying fast actions are needed it´s a matter of time to creep td be close.


No the priority is not to protext skill from players. The proirity is to protect "noobs" from being defeated by twinks without knowing, that it is a Twink!

Your sugestions about matchmaking etc. are old. At the moment there is no quick possability to implement these suggestions. You are free to advert CreepTD:

  Code:
Hello [Name of site] team,

I like to take the opportunity to suggest a nice game as an addition to your site: CreepTD. It's a community-driven online single- and multiplayer TowerDefense game that can be played and embedded for free and does not contain any advertising. Besides several languages it comes with a variety of popular competitive and cooperative game modes for single- and multiplayer games and about 100 challenging and unique maps. Because of the community that has established around the game, there is always someone logged in to challenge. Everyone can play without the need to provide any personal data.

The website of the game is available at http://www.creeptd.com - there you will also find a JavaScript code and a Flash file that allows embeding the game into every site easily ( http://www.creeptd.com/developers#embed ).

It would be so cool if you'd add CreepTD to your site! Perhaps you'd even like to create a review or similar about it? :)

Best regards
[Name]


At the moment nobody earns money with CreepTD and there is not the possabilty to pay for advertisment. For the majority of the sites you have to pay to be listed.

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 02.01.2017, 23:47
by 388
Hi, in the goal of letting players (both noobs and pros) know who is a twink, what about a system of fast-tracking players who reach a certain skill before a certain XP to Admiral (possibly without changing XP)?

Or maybe just give them the Admiral icon. You could also create a new rank/icon just for these players, like 'CWO' (Chief Warrant Officer). After, ranking up will continue as normal, with the normal XP levels.

IE,
Skill >1300 & <200XP = CWO (or whatever)

If you look at the highscores for players around 1200 skill, almost all have above 200 XP, so 1300 skill would be safe, I think. You could make it >1200 & <150XP to make it earlier. Maybe it's not worth the trouble.


Another suggestion:
I think for new players, the 'default' tower theme is not good. All of the towers look very similar, which makes it more difficult to tell what is going on, which tower does what, etc. It makes the game look a bit "unfriendly" and overly complex. The 'Classic+' tower theme should be made the default for new players, with the other one selectable, in my opinion.

Also, the new 'default' creep theme is ugly (sorry). It looks "modern", yes, but it once again looks too complex, which is not the appeal of the game in my opinion. Also, I have not heard of any pro players using the new themes.

First impressions are very important.

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 04.11.2017, 14:13
by savvi

Re: Criticism, sugggestions, comments about Twinksprohibitio

PostPosted: 05.11.2017, 13:43
by Magneto