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Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 27.01.2012, 14:48
by tracker
Vote.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 27.01.2012, 15:09
by EasyX
i play with classic but for new players the new ones are better..

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 27.01.2012, 15:19
by tracker
EasyX wrote:i play with classic but for new players the new ones are better..

Where do you base this assumption? I find the new towers really hard to distinguish from each other... almost same looking. The creeps are fine, but i prefer the old ones, somehow the new ones have lost their meaning... i mean, raider and raptor looks almost same etc. Actually, i say they are really bad, for the latter point i said.

There is a saying "dont fix something that isnt broken" ;)

Everyone who votes for "new" plays with classic but still votes "new" :roll:

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 27.01.2012, 15:23
by dcode
What if you'd give the game some time before marking things as "really bad"?

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 27.01.2012, 15:38
by tracker
dcode, no offense, but i have seen this behaviour from other developers over time, they tend to fix things that arent broken. There was absolutely no reason to change the creeps graphics. The towers could have been changed a little, but not that much. and tbh, you have now fixed the classic towers as they can be best! (you added slight shadow, which is great!).

I dont like the new towers because:
1) they fill the map graphics completely.
2) they look almost the same.
3) i have already got used to the old ones.

I dont like the new creeps because:
1) they look almost the same.
2) i have already got used to the old ones.

dcode wrote:What if you'd give the game some time before marking things as "really bad"?

lastly, i dont want to get used to the new ones, i love the old ones! imagine if your Operating System (OS) changed every year completely... every icon changes and you need to learn new icons every year. That isnt useful for anyone.

In a game like this its important to see and understand everything with a quick glimpse, i dont have time to look at the pixel differences if enemy tower is basictower or speedtower, or if a raptor is a raider or not.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 27.01.2012, 15:44
by dcode
tracker, no offense, but i have seen this behaviour from other users over time, they tend to criticise new things just because they are not yet familar with them. give it some time, really. And if there is something wrong with the gfx, I will of course improve it depending on the overall feedback I receive.

You can change the graphics to classic till then, I think this is fair.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 27.01.2012, 15:58
by tracker
dcode wrote:tracker, no offense, but i have seen this behaviour from other users over time, they tend to criticise new things just because they are not yet familar with them. give it some time, really.

Im not some newb who critises new things just because they are new! Some new things are good (as i have already made it clear i like the new shadows under classic towers), but some new things are just ultra bad. You just need to take the critisism and not force people to your preferences just because you dont play the game enough to get emotionally attached to the graphics like we do. Most developers problem is that they dont play their own game enough. And i guess its your problem too.

And i made it pretty clear why i dont like the new towers, and those points will cause me to never change my opinion on that, unless the towers were changed. The biggest thing i dont like is that they fill the whole map. Whats the point making cool looking maps if they get covered ?

I say it again: "dont fix things that arent broken".

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 27.01.2012, 16:04
by dcode
As I said, I will improve things based on overall feedback. In this case I think you are wrong. Maybe the new graphics are not perfect, yet, but they are not ultra bad. Especially for new players, the first impression now is a less boring one. This is the sole purpose of the new graphics.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 27.01.2012, 16:19
by tracker
How about you make a contest for new gfx... i could try to make better too :)

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 27.01.2012, 16:22
by dcode
Already planned. GFX and Sounds will be replaceable with custom sets in the near future (Download version only, though)

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 31.01.2012, 18:09
by tracker
pretty steady voting... half the community wants the old. take a hint from that; you are pissing off 50% of the players atm.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 31.01.2012, 18:23
by manuel
Five players are one half of the community? I always thougt, there were more than ten players playing CTD.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 31.01.2012, 18:38
by tracker
well i dont think the % is much more different if we asked from everyone.. i could even say more than 50% would like the classic more.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 31.01.2012, 18:57
by dcode
1. Asking this question so early may - but may also not - result in something that's worth anything in about 1-2 weeks.
2. This is a phpBB-Voting, so there is no guarantee that this is representative

However, I take this already into account, of course. But to make a decision, it's way to early.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 31.01.2012, 19:09
by tracker
I doubt anyone will switch from classic to the new just because time has passed. Nobodys gonna suddenly switch to the new, unless they were changed to look a lot more comfortable to play with.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 31.01.2012, 19:15
by dcode
It's not about those who keep the old one ;) So please, gear down, I am giving my bests and it's not a war users vs. programmer in here.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 31.01.2012, 19:16
by EasyX
Keep calm... u can choose the old one so where is the problem? In future Users can add new Grafics and then everybody can choose what he prefers. And btw the standard theme is very usefull for "good" looking presentations.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 31.01.2012, 19:20
by tracker
EasyX wrote:And btw the standard theme is very usefull for "good" looking presentations.

What do you mean... i find the classic much more usefullier, easier to see difference between towers (or creeps) from low resolution videos etc. and they look nicer too, more unique to any other game.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 31.01.2012, 19:42
by dcode
Come on, ease up...wait...and let's talk about this later.

Re: Default tower/creep graphics to classic?

PostPosted: 31.01.2012, 19:58
by Kleriker26
ich versteh den ganzen hick hack nich dann soll er klassisch umstellen und gut is. jeden tag hört man immer "das is scheisse, und das is kacke" dann solln sie wenigstens n statement abgeben oder es lassen und nich ohne grund rumjammern. ich mein dcode kann auch sagen "ach was soll das alles, ich lass es einfach wenn es keinem gefällt" aber nein macht er auch nich und ich finde das echt super das er soviel zeit, arbeit.... investiert um das allen irgendwie gerecht zu machen. wems nich gefällt der soll gehn. es kommen noch 100000 andere/neue.

danke nochmal dcode